“hold off, Is it a Date?” Podcast Episode 206: star Crushes | Autostraddle

It had been my personal cousin’s move to select the film at Blockbuster and she’d picked

A Stroll to Remember

. “Sorry. This is exactly a girl flick,” my personal mom warned. Once we had gotten house and watched it children, I didn’t show my personal tears. Or my personal need. I did not confess that We adored the film and, more to the point, adored the lead. The season ended up being 2002 and between Mandy Moore in this movie and Avril Lavigne delivering the woman introduction record, I’d found the two kinds of star crushes that could haunt with the rest of my personal childhood.

Celebrity crushes suggest a lot more to queer men and women than they actually do to straight individuals. They could be our very own very first expressions of queer desire or our very own very first expressions of sex envy. They may be a safe place to experiment urges that are not prepared the real-world.

For this reason recently we’re talking with journalist and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola everything about celebrity crushes. We discuss just how star thirsting feels inclusive to Jordan as a panromantic grey asexual individual. We explore the way I believe most of my personal celebrity crushes tend to be kind of obtainable. And, needless to say, we discuss the well-known earlier women on Christina’s h2o package.

But initial! Christina quizzes myself on a topic i understand small about — lesbian relationship novels

PROGRAM NOTES

+ The real relationship novels referenced within online game had been:

The X Element

,

Breaking Personality

,

Hotel Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Reality

.

+ My personal reference for two enthusiasts discussing a wall:

+ Christina’s research for just two enthusiasts discussing a wall:

+ listed here are all of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

A Straightforward Podcast

The Entire Movie Podcast

Aughtsterion

Tragedy Women

Experiencing Observed

+ My famous

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If like me, you’ve got no idea who Lindsay Shookus is,
here is a timeline
of the woman relationship with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is very brave of myself, because I really don’t keep in mind every little thing I typed on my Tumblr, but listed here is a link to
my personal Nicole Kidman job
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Moving Rock cover
.

+ a note to look at

P-Valley

also to read
Natalie’s protection
.

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EPISODE

Jordan:

Practically whenever Jennifer Connelly’s face popped upon display screen, each and every time i recently went, “Oh, God.”

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, Jesus,” like every fucking time.

[theme track plays]

Drew:

Hi, I’m Drew.

Christina:

And I’m Christina.

Drew:

And thank you for visiting Wait, Is It A Romantic Date?.

Christina:

You understand, Wait, Is it a romantic date? is actually an Autostraddle podcast where we constantly forget whom claims what, regardless of what very long we have now taped. Uh, i do believe that is in fact really beautiful. And my headsets just dropped quickly my personal head. Very.

Drew:

So a substantial s—, strong start.

Christina:

A powerful begin. But primarily, it really is a podcast about matchmaking and, like, figuring out what relationship is and if we know tips get it done, like I determine easily learn how to hold my own headsets to my really mind.

Drew:

That’s fantastic. Um, i’m called Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I’m, uh… Or would you… But did you wish us to dwell on that longer? I am acquiring seems.

Christina:

No, I Am merely home…

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

…on myself.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

It’s best any time you talk, I think. (laughs)

Drew:

Correct. Um, uh, my name is Drew Gregory. Im a filmmaker and an author for Autostraddle. I’m a queer trans woman also. Those tend to be identification tags that You will find. Christina?

Christina:

Yes, positively. I Am Christina Tucker. I will be in addition an author at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And in all honesty, this thirty days I really just been like a woman about city. I Have really and truly just already been like—

Drew:

Mm.

Christina:

—woman in particular, mainly in several—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—beaches, uh, during the Jersey Shore.

Drew:

You really have actually.

Detail http://girlsdate.org/asian-lesbian-dating.html

Christina:

Yet still feeling really at-large and whimsical such that now we demonstrably believe fatigued by.

Drew:

Positive.

Christina:

I’m Black and gay, and therefore stones for me personally.

Drew:

I enjoy that. (laughs)

Christina:

Cool. I am not sure exactly why I’m therefore weird now. We, like, do not know whom I am. What’s happening?

Drew:

It really is fine. We’re going to keep goin’.

Christina:

What I possess, however, Drew, is actually a casino game.

Drew:

Mm-hmm. Thank Jesus.

Christina:

And That video game Im screening your knowledge of one thing I’m Sure you don’t have plenty of information about, which is—

Drew:

Oh God.

Christina:

–fun. Um, it really is a… its labeled as… I don’t already have a name for it. I maybe should’ve considered a reputation. But basically, I’ll provide you with three lesbian love brands, and you’re going—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—to need to tell me what are the real types of three.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Two You will find produced, a person is actual. And you’re going to need certainly to select the real one and tell me what you think it’s about.

Drew:

Great. Okay.

Christina:

Are you ready?

Drew:

I’m. Just what a good online game.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Here we get. The initial three.

The X Element

,

The It Factor

, and

The Truth of Us

.

Drew:

Huh. It is amusing, ’cause you’ll think

The X Ingredient

would in fact end up being

The X Element

along side

The It Element

, but—

Christina:

Certain.

Drew:

We want to state… I just… Oh, I hope I am not accidentally insulting you, but I believe like

The X Element

could be the clunkiest, which means you would not came with that. It needs to be real.

Christina:

You are correct. (laughs)

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow, I’m therefore glad.

Christina:

Precisely what do you might think

The X Element

is approximately?

Drew:

Um, I think it really is about two lesbians that happen to be exes and end up on the same reality cooking show that’s type of like

Chopped

, but, like, somewhere within

Chopped

and

Great British Baking Show

. Like, it goes on for a time but it features kind of the sun and rain of

Chopped

. Um, and they’re exes plus it… It really is sort of love a… I don’t know if it would depend as an opponents to fans simply because they happened to be enthusiasts at some point, but it is like an exes to back with each other.

Christina:

I love that. I also like that by asking you to tell me personally what you think these publications are about, I just made you develop romance plots.

Drew:

I favor it.

Christina:

That’s truly enjoyable. Uh, unfortunately

The X Element

is clearly, uh, about an associate just who sleeps along with her manager. So when we started reading it last week in the beach, I mentioned, “this will be positively a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic that contains converted into an actual guide.” When I inform you we check the

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, I certain have actually. Making sure that’s a journey.

Drew:

Hold off, but why is it known as

The X Element

?

Christina:

Well, in initial fanfic, the X ingredient was… There was some kind of reason why Miranda had most of her assistants, uh, consume her over to climax. Um.

Drew:

Wow.

Christina:

Cannot really recall precisely what the, the storyline, the backstory ,was thereon, um, but in this new one, inside real released version i ought to state, uh, the X ingredient i assume is, I don’t know, simply, like, that her assistant’s hot and she’s want, “Oh, i will be homosexual now and I wanna have sex together with her.” Like, I’m not sure. The X component is hot.

Drew:

Adequate in my situation. Okay.

Christina:

There you go.

Drew:

Round two.

Christina:

Round two.

Cracked Hearts Club

…

Drew:

Uh-huh.

Christina:

…

Busting Personality

,

Going for Broke

.

Drew:

Ooh, all those seem like they could be actual. I really like it to be

Splitting Character

, but i do believe

Cracked Hearts Club

is actually real.

Christina:

Unfortunately,

Cracked Hearts Club

is certainly not genuine. And happy for your family,

Breaking Character

is actual.

Drew:

Oh my personal God, I should’ve only gone with my impulse.

Christina:

Pick your gut, girl.

Drew:


Busting Personality

. Okay, it’s about a kind of like the feminine Daniel Day-Lewis, like a female star exactly who takes the woman strategy operating extremely really, and she develops a relationship with her co-star. But her co-star, its unclear both for her co-star and for the actor when the co-star is actually really love together or perhaps in love with her fictional character. And hijinks ensue.

Christina:

In all honesty, that’s not far-off through the actual story of

Busting Personality

, in fact it is in reality about two stars, a person who is, uh, already been called a bitch but is not necessarily, it is merely being, uh, badmouthed by her showrunner because she actually is on like a

Grey’s Anatomy

type medical program—

Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Christina:

—that provides actually eliminated off of the rails. Her characteris the bitch.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

And, uh, her new co-star summertime — you got that right, the woman name’s Summer — is quite lovely and wonderful. And due to extremely bonkers plot factors, they need to have a fake commitment. Nevertheless They’re both gay so…

Drew:

So nothing takes place. They don’t really develop any feelings.

Christina:

Yeah, so that they don’t… Yeah, absolutely nothing.

Drew:

They never hook-up. No.

Christina:

Nothing takes place. They never ever mention it and they never have gender.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

Yep, that is just what actually takes place.

Drew:

Occasionally that is how it goes.

Christina:

Fine, your next three.

Resort Queens

,

Media Moguls

, or

Eatery Monarchs

.

Drew:

Okay, I’m gonna follow my impulse and go with the one which I want to be real—

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

—and wish that that is real.

Hotel Queens

.

Christina:


Resort Queens

is actually real.

Drew:

Wow, I’m eliminating it. (laughs)

Christina:

You’re destroying this. For someone who maybe not read a lot of lesbian relationship, uh, it really is in your blood, babe.

Drew:

Okay, I’m going to today say the storyline that I’m hoping truly, though i am sure according to my personal comprehension of posting sector this is not the fact. But i’d like that it is about two participants on a show like, similar,

Drag Race

’cause you’re not actually meant to, similar, take each other’s spaces but, you are sure that, they stay static in a resort through the entire recording for the tv show. So that they establish, like, a kind of dramatic affair that for a long period can not be consummated, but their rooms tend to be near to one another so they really, like, knock-on the wall structure in-between them right after which while they are shooting, there is like all stress and it is… And yeah, that is, that’s what I want

Hotel Queens

are when it comes to.

Christina:

That appears quite hot. Um, that isn’t what

Hotel Queens

is mostly about. It’s simply about a woman exactly who works hotels and, uh, an other woman who operates a competing resort.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

Just Who works best for a fighting lodge chain in addition they, uh—

Drew:

Sure, sure, sure.

Christina:

—quite virtually are hotel queens.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

But I like that electricity. Everyone loves the knocking on the… Very, uh,

hit 3 times throughout the ceiling if you want myself

power, that we like.

Drew:

I happened to be referencing

Vibrant Superstar

, and that I love our, I favor our very own different social factors, you are sure that.

Christina:

I really like our very own brains.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

I do believe minds are very breathtaking.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

All right,

Paid in haven

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


The Repayment Plan

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

noise fun. I want with

Payback’s a Witch

.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. And it is fun ’cause it’s an actual book.

Drew:

Cool.

Christina:

Let me know what you think

Payback’s a Witch

is mostly about.

Drew:

Okay, I got it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

So a new homosexual witch is having difficulties to manufacture book in the early several months of pandemic.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Together with landlord is like, “No, you must nevertheless offer money.” And she actually is love, “But have a look, like, all these… you realize, like, you cannot evict me,” as well as these different things and like, “you need to offer me personally a break,” and “It is a pandemic.” As well as the property manager’s want, “No, I’m a landlord. I detest you.”

So after that she is like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” and so next she starts tormenting the property owner. Really Love tale is certainly not together with the property owner, maybe not an enemies-to-lovers circumstance because—

Christina:

‘Cause landlords are poor. Sure. (laughs)

Drew:

But really she realizes that the woman neighbor is also a witch and in addition a lesbian, so that they torment the property manager with each other and fall-in love as you go along. It kind of features like a Roald Dahl energy, like

The Twits

. Or

Great Mr. Fox

. Like, there’s not actually, like… there is not many dispute after the preliminary dispute occurs. Like, the pair of them only are just like, “We’re both witches. We’re gonna torment this individual who has a right to be tormented.” After which they have sex.

Christina:

That is actually truly attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is all about, instead, a lady who’s, you guessed it, a witch whom comes back to the woman hometown where this is the just location that she will be able to perform magic—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—because there’s like a magic pond. She has been without powers.

Drew:

Fun. Ooh.

Christina:

Um, and she satisfies a, a girl she had a crush in high school. Uh, there’s like a whole extended, like, secret world-building thing making use of community and families that are running the town. They meet up. It is extremely nice. Fun book,

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Truly, on the types up to now, that is the any I would many wanna look over.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is quite enjoyable. Uh, there is certainly a sequel to that particular guide, but it is regrettably about right men and women. Thus.

Drew:

Weird.

Christina:

You win some, you drop some. All right, here is all of our last any.

Honesty and Second Possibilities

,

Whenever Facts Joins Fiction

—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—or

The Brutal Truth

.

Drew:

Ooh. I am going to go with

When Facts Satisfies Fiction

.

Christina:

Mm, this is certainly unfortuitously from my personal head by yourself. Uh,

The Brutal Facts

, nevertheless…

Drew:

Fortunately that

The Brutal Truth

and

Whenever Truth Suits Fiction

, I Do Believe they are both a comparable thing which is—

Christina:

Yeah, they would be.

Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Day Program

and of Bradley Jackson along with her truth telling. But we imagine with regards to had been released, for copyright laws explanations they did have to change some details. So the woman name’s not Bradley Jackson any longer, however it is likewise plotted.

Christina:

Basically a shame because Bradley Jackson is actually leading among biggest personality labels ever placed to report, um, despite how—

Drew:

Absolutely.

Christina:

—ridiculous everything about it is actually. But congratulations thereon Emmy nom, Reese.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Facts

is focused on a news mogul whom takes over a battling report and falls crazy about the crime publisher, just who produces—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—at the evening. Uh, obtained a very nice coming collectively. The news mogul is clearly really mean and like twenty years more than she actually is. It is wonderful material.

Drew:

Sure.

Christina:

And I also will, because I care such for the audience, certainly include backlinks to all or any among these genuine publications in the tv series records.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

And rest of all of them, they’ll get back into my personal mind where they belong. Additionally, creating titles of guides… Like I can develop plots for a romance books the whole day. Titles is actually, like, really shockingly challenging.

Drew:

Yeah, you probably did really good.

Christina:

Thank-you. I just needed that match.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

All of our very unique guest is regarded as my personal favorite people to thirst about celebs with. Very special visitor, why don’t you present yourself so we could possibly get into celeb crush chat?

Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. It is a— And Drew. Hello. I, I Will Be Jordan Crucchiola. Of course, if you pay attention to any of my personal podcasts, you may possibly have started with the straightforward Podcast which I performed with Christina. So when I mentioned when I signed onto this cam, the past time we had been on a pod collectively ended up being as soon as we had been interviewing Blake vibrant.

Christina:

And, when I recall, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—

Jordan:

Yeah.

Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis only in a little Zoom place.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

There this woman is. She’s got so much tresses. What’s taking place? She actually is talkin’ to us for a long time.

Jordan:

Go with Jesus, Blake. Thanks a lot.

Christina:

It absolutely was crazy occasions. Crazy instances.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

Do you wish to state a little bit more about who you are?

Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, we, I wish to point out that Im a person who likes Drew Gregory’s everything I give consideration to getting definitive

Euphoria

recaps.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow. many thanks.

Jordan:

There was clearly certain one where, um… since the show helps make myself so very… Hunter Schafer is, uh, an angel from Jesus.

Christina:

Yeah.

Jordan:

Plus the tv series can make me personally very unpleasant in the unmarried brain trust founder, executor, manufacturer, movie director, author, gazes upon Hunter.

Christina:

Mm-hmm.

Drew:

Yeah.